From ragnarok@pobox.com Thu Jul 17 15:46:39 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: ragnarok@pobox.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 4101 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 22:46:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Jul 2003 22:46:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.intrex.net) (209.42.192.250) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 22:46:39 -0000 Received: from craig [209.42.200.92] by smtp.intrex.net (SMTPD32-7.13) id A74E1279027E; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 18:46:38 -0400 To: Subject: RE: [lojban] Re: describing people Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 18:46:56 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3F17108D.5030501@bilkent.edu.tr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Declude-Sender: ragnarok@pobox.com [209.42.200.92] From: "Craig" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=48763382 X-Yahoo-Profile: kreig_daniyl X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 20387 >> Craig scripsit: >> >> >>>How do you ask what someone looks like? I don't want the answer to be "a >>>fish" but rather a description of the person's appearance. >> >> >> I first thought of "ko'a simlu ma", but "ko'a selski fo ma" would be >> more precise. >> >"ko'a simlu ma" would indeed invite the answer "lo finpe". >ta'o k'ie doi kreig. ... >be careful about "ko'a" - it's very tempting to use it to translate >he/she/it, and this is _wrong_. "ko'a" should be one of the rarer >pro-sumti, since you would only use it if you felt it useful to >specifically assign a pro-sumti to a person or thing. Given that you're >writing a story KO'A may be appropriate, but I've seen too many cases >where people use "ko'a" when they really want "ti" or "ri". I'm several paragraphs in and have introduced all but one of the major characters (I expect - I could decide to have more pop up) and have not assigned a single ko'a-series cmavo yet. I've been using ri, ra, and an occasional lerfu. -- mi'e .kreig.daniyl. "do du le jamna pinji" -fracture ragnarok@pobox.com teucer@bnomic.org