From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri Jul 18 15:36:32 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 61027 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 22:36:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Jul 2003 22:36:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 22:36:30 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 19ddq2-0007s9-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:36:30 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ddpk-0007rh-00; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:36:12 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs24349-133.austin.rr.com ([24.243.49.133] helo=cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com ident=root) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ddpT-0007qi-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:36:00 -0700 Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (asdf@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6IMjsxN033003 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:45:54 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from fracture@cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com) Received: (from fracture@localhost) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id h6IMjr1a033002 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:45:53 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:45:53 -0500 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Some questions Message-ID: <20030718224553.GA32964@allusion.net> References: <3F17FEA3.8080307@bilkent.edu.tr> <20030718141400.GA27911@allusion.net> <200307181802.53433.phma@webjockey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200307181802.53433.phma@webjockey.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-archive-position: 5919 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: fracture@allusion.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Jordan DeLong From: Jordan DeLong Reply-To: fracture@allusion.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 20401 --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 06:02:53PM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Friday 18 July 2003 10:14, Jordan DeLong wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 05:05:23PM +0300, Robin Turner wrote: > > > Craig wrote: > > > >Here's a related question for you. Is "broda fa ko'e cu brode" > > > > grammatical? If so, what would you guess it to mean? > > > > > > It's not grammatical, though "broda be fa ko'e brode" would be. It > > > would be pointless to use "fa" here, though, since the first place af= ter > > > "be" would also be the first place of the preceding tanru component. > > > You could say something meaningful using different place tags, though > > > e.g. "ta xamgu be fe le ka kufra zdani" - "That is a house which is g= ood > > > by the standard of comfort". > > > > The first place after be is the *second* place of the first tanru > > component. >=20 > If you say "be fa", it is the first. [...] Correct. --=20 Jordan DeLong - fracture@allusion.net lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u sei la mark. tuen. cusku --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline [Attachment content not displayed.] --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq--