From xod@thestonecutters.net Mon Sep 08 14:17:09 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 36217 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2003 21:17:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Sep 2003 21:17:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Sep 2003 21:17:06 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 19wTD1-0004Mx-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 08 Sep 2003 14:06:03 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19wTCF-0004M9-00; Mon, 08 Sep 2003 14:05:15 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 08 Sep 2003 14:05:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [66.111.194.10] (helo=granite.thestonecutters.net) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19wTAl-0004Kg-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2003 14:03:43 -0700 Received: from granite.thestonecutters.net (localhost.thestonecutters.net [127.0.0.1]) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.12.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h88KwoOV079828 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 16:58:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) Received: from localhost (xod@localhost) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h88Kwosf079825 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 16:58:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) X-Authentication-Warning: granite.thestonecutters.net: xod owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 16:58:50 -0400 (EDT) To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: toolbar In-Reply-To: <200309081650.04035.phma@webjockey.net> Message-ID: <20030908165837.V71841-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 6102 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xod@thestonecutters.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Invent Yourself Reply-To: xod@thestonecutters.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=110189215 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 20585 On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Monday 08 September 2003 10:32, Jorge "Llambías" wrote: > > la pier cusku di'e > > > > > Which is better for "toolbar": {tcigrana} or {tcigarna}? > > > > {garna} seems more faithful to the original. It also has the > > advantage that it has an x2 for the tools. The problem is the > > material, but both grana and garna have that. I suppose it is > > the material out of which all computer program "objects" are > > made of. What material would that be? > > samcmu (which comes in the Periodic Table before fackycmu). :) They're made from mucti material. -- Economic power is exercised by means of a positive, by offering men a reward, an incentive, a payment, a value; political power is exercised by means of a negative, by the threat of punishment, injury, imprisonment, destruction. The businessman's tool is values; the bureaucrat's tool is fear.