From jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Fri Sep 26 15:56:07 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 47458 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2003 22:56:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Sep 2003 22:56:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Sep 2003 22:56:06 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 1A31VN-0003Df-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:56:06 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1A31Ux-0003DB-00; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:55:39 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:55:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web41902.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.153]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 1A31UM-0003CJ-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:55:02 -0700 Message-ID: <20030926225431.94769.qmail@web41902.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.69.6.4] by web41902.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:54:31 PDT Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:54:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [lojban] Re: dot was volcano To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <200309261759.45056.phma@webjockey.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 6302 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Jorge "Llambías" Reply-To: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=142311107 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 20784 la pier cusku di'e > For "this is a dot" I say {ti me me'o denpa bu}. Right. I always forget about {me'o}. > There is also a word > {depybu'i}, but whether that means the same as {me me'o denpa bu} I don't > know. If the dot is considered to be a member of the lojban alphabet, then {deple'u} is more precise. A someting-le'u is a something-bu'i that forms part of an alphabet and represents something. The intermediate step would be a something-sni, which represents but need not form part of an alphabet. So: lo depybu'i: The symbol ".". lo depsni: The symbol "." representing a pause. lo deple'u: The symbol "." representing a pause as a member of the Lojban alphabet. (Then there is the question of whether it really represents a pause or actually a glottal stop.) mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com