From a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Fri Sep 26 12:20:11 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 14130 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2003 19:20:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Sep 2003 19:20:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Sep 2003 19:20:10 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 1A2y8P-00019Y-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:20:09 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1A2y7S-00018l-00; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:19:10 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lmsmtp04.st1.spray.net ([212.78.202.114]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1A2y6w-00018E-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:18:39 -0700 Received: from oemcomputer (host213-121-69-134.surfport24.v21.co.uk [213.121.69.134]) by lmsmtp04.st1.spray.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C1E147EB1 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:18:04 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <002201c38462$eb4c1840$a2e1fea9@oemcomputer> To: References: <20030926121233.43987.qmail@web41901.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: Shakespearian word order Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:15:11 +0100 Organization: Livagian Consulate MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-archive-position: 6298 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: "And Rosta" Reply-To: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=122260811 X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 20780 xorxes: > la and cusku di'e > > > > > > xorxes: > > > > > > > > > > FOOL: All thy other titles thou hast given away: > > > > > > > > > > That thou wast born with. > > > > > > > 2) ro lo do drata noltcita do se bejdu'a zo'au ny poi do se > > jinzi > > > > > > Yes. I'm assuming {ny} is under the scope of {ro}, and bound by it. > > > > OK. We see here the pitfalls of glorky anaphora... > > I think there's no glorking for that bit. I take every bare anaphor > to be bound by the quantifier of its antecedent if it falls > under its scope. Quite right, if the antecedent is indeed a variable. > To get the unbound meaning I'd have to use an > explicit {tu'oboi ny} here. The only glorking is in identifying > {ro lo do drata noltcita} as the antecedent, but bare {lo do drata > noltcita} is not a candidate. I think. Why is {lo do drata noltcita} not a candidate? --And.