From lojban-out@lojban.org Sun Sep 21 11:26:17 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 22482 invoked from network); 21 Sep 2003 18:26:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Sep 2003 18:26:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Sep 2003 18:26:17 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 1A18uW-0005jx-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 11:26:16 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1A18u8-0005j5-00; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 11:25:52 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 21 Sep 2003 11:25:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp8.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.30] helo=mwinf0101.wanadoo.fr) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1A18tu-0005hp-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 11:25:38 -0700 Received: from free.fr (ASt-Lambert-106-1-5-125.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.248.140.125]) by mwinf0101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9F6CCC00012B for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 20:25:04 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 20:24:21 +0200 Subject: [lojban] Re: Do not discuss the LLG WRT copyrighted translations! (was Re: Question about the number of books) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis In-Reply-To: <20030921175926.GF26715@digitalkingdom.org> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-archive-position: 6261 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jexOm@free.fr Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: jexOm. From: jexOm. Reply-To: jexOm@free.fr X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 20743 What is the problem of translating Le Petit Prince if based on a regular contract with the rights owner? Do you know who they are and did you ever contact them? I did. I am not speaking of illegal work, but try to understand what the terms and conditions of this contract could be. So, you don't have to shout like this. Jérôme. PS : you didn't answer my question. Le dimanche, 21 sep 2003, à 19:59 Europe/Paris, Robin Lee Powell a écrit : > On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 07:29:55PM +0200, jexOm. wrote: >> If we could propose Le Petit Prince in Lojabn, how many books >> could we expect to sell, approximatively? > > Apparently people don't listen to me when I'm merely giving advice, > so I am no officially putting my foot down as Secretary. > > The LLG will publish a book under someone else's copyright only > under two conditions: > > 1. We have explicit permission in writing from the copyright > holder. > > 2. Over my rotting corpse. > > > I assure you, neither condition applies to Le Petit Prince. > > Until one or the other does, please do not discuss the possibility > of the LLG being *in* *any* *way* involved in this illegal[1] > translation, *especially* not in the context of publishing it. > > Thank you. > > -Robin Lee Powell, Secretar/Treasurer, Logical Language Group, Inc. > > [1]: I don't care whether you agree with my opinions on the legal > status of this work; it is my determination as Secretary and > Parliamentarian that it is illegal, and that decision is final until > and unless a copyright lawyer chooses to speak up on the subject[2]. > The LLG's stance on this point is *NOT* being opened as a subject > for debate. > > [2]: Or the President over-rules me, but don't hold your breath. > Or, theoretically, the membership as a whole could over-rule me, but > that is even less likely and in this case would lead to my immediate > resignation. > > -- > Me: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. > "but I'm not stupid and people are not stupid who think samely with me" > -- from an actual, real, non-spam mail sent to webmaster@lojban.org > http://www.lojban.org/ *** .i cimo'o prali .ui > > >