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Subject: Re: [lojban] deciphering the gismu list
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Thanks Pierre Abbat.

But is there an authoritative answer here?
who's responsible for this gismu list?

  Xah
  xah@xahlee.org
  http://xahlee.org/PageTwo_dir/more.html

On Saturday, September 6, 2003, at 04:43 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote:

> On Saturday 06 September 2003 18:39, xah wrote:
> > ( http://www.lojban.org/publications/wordlists/gismu.txt )
> >
> > is there a format spec for the gismu list?
> >
> > i.e.=A0 a sample line from the gismu list looks like this:
> >
> >
> > pensi pes=A0=A0=A0=A0 pei=A0 think=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0 'pensive'=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 x1
> > thinks/considers/cogitates/reasons/is pensive about/reflects upon
> > subject/concept x2=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 3l 164=A0=A0=A0 [also: x1=
 is thoughtful (one
> > sense); x2 is mental (one sense)/intellectual (one sense) (=3D=20
> selpei)];
> > (cf. cmavo list pe'i, jijnu, menli, morji, sidbo, jinvi, se nabmi,
> > minra, lanli, besna, saske, skami)
> >
> >
> > Multiple spaces are used as column separators. What are "pes" and
> > "pei"? and what's the diff between the semantic position at "think"=20
> and
> > "'pensive'"?
>
> "pes" and "pei" are called "rafsi". They are forms used in compound=20
> words,
> such as "nunpei" (thought, the event of thinking) and "selpei"=20
> (thought, a
> thing one thinks). The word in single quotes is often a word that is
> phonetically more similar than the gloss to the Lojban word, e.g. for=20
> "basti"
> the word is "substitute", which has four letters in common in order=20
> with it.
>
> > What does the "3l 164" refers to?
>
> I think those are usage statistics, used to decide which words get=20
> more rafsi.
>
> phma
>