From jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Tue Sep 23 05:20:28 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 31744 invoked from network); 23 Sep 2003 12:20:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Sep 2003 12:20:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Sep 2003 12:20:28 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 1A1m9b-00086p-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 05:20:27 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1A1m8y-00085a-00; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 05:19:48 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 23 Sep 2003 05:19:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web41905.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.156]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 1A1m8Y-00083z-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 05:19:22 -0700 Message-ID: <20030923121849.81361.qmail@web41905.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.49.74.2] by web41905.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 05:18:49 PDT Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 05:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [lojban] Re: Shakespearian word order To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <00df01c38158$46f0d7c0$5c360751@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 6276 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Jorge "Llambías" Reply-To: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=142311107 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 20758 la and cusku di'e > > > LEAR: Dost thou call me fool, boy? John Cowan > > > FOOL: All thy other titles http://www.ccil.org/~cowan > > > thou hast given away: jcowan@reutershealth.com > > > That thou wast born with. http://www.reutershealth.com > > > > > We can imitate the strange word order in Lojban by using a postnex: > > ro le do drata noltcita do se bejdu'a zo'au ny poi do se jinzi > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > {ro lo do drata noltcita poi do se jinzi} is better meaningwise. I > can't see a way to get that with the discontinuous/extrapositional > word order. I'd say: 1) ro lo do drata noltcita poi do se jinzi ku'o do se bejdu'a 2) ro lo do drata noltcita do se bejdu'a zo'au ny poi do se jinzi are identical in meaning. What else could the dislocated restrictive phrase do? mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com