From me@nellardo.com Tue Sep 09 11:09:52 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: me@nellardo.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 87089 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2003 18:09:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Sep 2003 18:09:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.speakeasy.net) (216.254.0.213) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Sep 2003 18:09:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 13492 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2003 18:09:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nellardo.com) (nellardo@[216.27.135.47]) (envelope-sender ) by mail13.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 9 Sep 2003 18:09:38 -0000 Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 14:09:35 -0400 Subject: Re: FW: [lojban] Book Idea: ko ko ctuca fo la .lojban. bau la .lojban. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) From: Brook Conner X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=66018878 X-Yahoo-Profile: nellardo X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 20600 On Monday, September 8, 2003, at 10:11 PM, Craig wrote: >> Inspired by the Esperanto Autodidakte, I think Lojban should have >> one too. This is a book[1] that teaches a language without using >> any language but itself to do so. It starts off as a picture book >> with captions. I like the idea a great deal. >> My current idea is to have the first two pictures introduce la >> .alis. and la .bab., and then have them meet each other and so on, >> but that's just a sketchy framework. Would it not be more "lojbanic" to choose names that were less clearly derivatives of common English names? >> If no-one else wants to do this, I'll probably take a crack at it >> eventually, but I wanted to throw it out to the community in case >> someone else wants to start work. I'm certainly interested.... Barring clip-art or photo-shoot solutions, I'll volunteer to do illustrations. >> I think easily available clip art would suffice for most of our >> pictorial needs. > > In general I love the idea; however, I think most easily-availible > clipart > will be under copyright. Almost certainly, though some has relatively liberal licensing. Some of the Dover collections come to mind. Especially if the product isn't for sale..... Any lojbanists who also happen to be professional designers might have access to stock photo collections with quite open licensing (once you've paid hundreds of dollars or more for a collection, you can pretty much do what you want with it). However, clip art might have the problem of continuity. Finding a series of pictures with identical individuals doing the right things for the story will be hard..... > Maybe at the next LogFest we have a photoshoot, > using Lojbanists in attendance to play la .alis. and la .bab.? Of course, contrary to my early suggestion about "lojbanic" names, there's a couple of pretty obvious stand-ins for la .alis. and la .bab. at a typical LogFest, isn't there? > Better yet, > we could have a book of true tales from LogFest, with photos! Perhaps that's a separate book, or a later chapter or installment of the Autodidakte? Brook