From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Sep 18 12:58:53 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 46553 invoked from network); 18 Sep 2003 19:58:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Sep 2003 19:58:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Sep 2003 19:58:53 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 1A04vU-0008HG-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:58:52 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1A04uw-0008Fn-00; Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:58:18 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:58:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imap.epfl.ch ([128.178.50.10] ident=mailsrv) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1A04uk-0008FJ-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:58:06 -0700 Received: from imap.epfl.ch (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imap.epfl.ch (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.0 Patch 3 (built Mar 23 2001)) with ESMTP id <0HLF00NLME4R2K@imap.epfl.ch> for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 18 Sep 2003 21:58:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from [213.3.152.142] by imap.epfl.ch (mshttpd); Thu, 18 Sep 2003 21:58:03 +0200 Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 21:58:03 +0200 Subject: [lojban] Re: That's mostly for spanish readers To: lojban-list@lojban.org Message-id: <178dc1717a.1717a178dc@imap.epfl.ch> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Webmail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en X-archive-position: 6229 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: gregory.dyke@epfl.ch Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: GREGORY DYKE From: GREGORY DYKE Reply-To: gregory.dyke@epfl.ch X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 20711 > On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 12:33:08PM -0700, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > > I don't know. How hard are these: > > > > eo'asi ko sajri la ljoabn > > > > mi kmala le zcrai these must be the two most common lojbanic phrases - I recognized the first one immediately - but I had a lot of trouble with kmala and zcrai > > ? I think we can't really test lojban for this until we have more > > fluency. I suspect that recognizing common lojban words won't be > > much harder than in other languages for someone truly fluent. I'd expect it to be harder, as lojban has a great many more anagrams than most languages - someone worked it all out on the wiki. (on the other hand, most of the cmavo are unambiguous according to the preserving first and last letter rules) Try this: la lnura cu ssmia lo clira bu'u le tansi ctaru mu'o