From phma@ixazon.dynip.com Tue Oct 07 06:26:48 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 07 Oct 2003 06:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 208-150-110-21-adsl.precisionet.net ([208.150.110.21] helo=blackcat.ixazon.lan) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A6rrK-0005vP-2O for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 06:26:38 -0700 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4B6C23A35; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:25:37 +0000 (UTC) From: Pierre Abbat Organization: dis To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Dalai Lama Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:25:35 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200310070925.35972.phma@webjockey.net> X-archive-position: 6351 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list I've figured it out: la daliblamas. Tibetan spelling is as conklepated as English or French or Gaelic, and the word "lama" is spelled with a silent 'b'. {pancenlamas} does not need the 'b', and the 't' drops out because of a Lojban spelling rule. la tenzin.giatsoz. ca me la daliblamas. According to the list on Wikipedia, all but the first Dalai Lama had the last name "Gyatso". How come? "Tenzing" appears to be a common name on both sides of the Himalayas (another famous Tenzing climbed Mount Everest with Hillary); what's it mean, and where did it come from? phma -- .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga .icu'u la ma'atman.