From jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Tue Oct 07 07:52:47 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 07 Oct 2003 07:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web41903.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.154]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A6tCY-0006ww-Ek for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 07:52:38 -0700 Message-ID: <20031007144524.6239.qmail@web41903.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.49.74.2] by web41903.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 07:45:24 PDT Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 07:45:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Jorge "Llambías" Subject: [lojban] Re: Dalai Lama To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <200310070925.35972.phma@webjockey.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 6356 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list la pier cusku di'e > I've figured it out: la daliblamas. Tibetan spelling is as conklepated as > English or French or Gaelic, and the word "lama" is spelled with a silent > 'b'. {pancenlamas} does not need the 'b', and the 't' drops out because of a > Lojban spelling rule. la tenzin.giatsoz. ca me la daliblamas. Isn't "Dalai Lama" a title, like "King", or "President", or "Pope"? If so, it should be a brivla, not a cmene. The Dalai Lama page says: "Dalai is Mongolian for 'ocean', Lama is Tibetan for 'spiritual teacher', hence the translation, 'Ocean of Wisdom'". So it could be a fu'ivla ({jatnrdalailama}, {jdalailama}?), or a lujvo like {xasru'ictu}. > According to the list on Wikipedia, all but the first Dalai Lama had the last > > name "Gyatso". How come? That must be an adopted name. The Dalai Lama page says the current Dalai Lama was born Lhamo Thondup, which means "Wish-Fulfilling Goddess". mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com