From xod@thestonecutters.net Thu Oct 09 07:46:38 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 53600 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2003 14:46:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Oct 2003 14:46:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Oct 2003 14:46:37 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.22) id 1A7c3o-00068I-JO for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 07:46:36 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A7c36-00067M-I2; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 07:45:52 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 09 Oct 2003 07:45:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [66.111.194.10] (helo=granite.thestonecutters.net) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A7c2V-00066H-R5 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 07:45:15 -0700 Received: from granite.thestonecutters.net (localhost.thestonecutters.net [127.0.0.1]) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.12.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h99EeN2v042183 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:40:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) Received: from localhost (xod@localhost) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h99EeNDF042178 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:40:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) X-Authentication-Warning: granite.thestonecutters.net: xod owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:40:23 -0400 (EDT) To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: any men for discrete sex? In-Reply-To: <20031009130138.3069.qmail@web41901.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031009103538.B41663-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 6398 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xod@thestonecutters.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Invent Yourself Reply-To: xod@thestonecutters.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=110189215 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 20880 On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Jorge Llambías wrote: > > la and cusku di'e > > > Attempting to render this in Lojban: > > > > "xu su'o nanmu cu zanru lo sepli nu gletu" > > i xu su'o nanmu cu tolzau lo ranji nu gletu ju'ocu'i le nakni poi tolra'i jdari gi'e ckire le nundenpa -- Economic power is exercised by means of a positive, by offering men a reward, an incentive, a payment, a value; political power is exercised by means of a negative, by the threat of punishment, injury, imprisonment, destruction. The businessman's tool is values; the bureaucrat's tool is fear.