From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Oct 08 10:37:03 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 17778 invoked from network); 8 Oct 2003 17:37:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Oct 2003 17:37:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Oct 2003 17:37:02 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.22) id 1A7IFB-0003cK-B7 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 10:37:01 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A7IEm-0003aA-BH; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 10:36:36 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 08 Oct 2003 10:36:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.22) id 1A7IDl-0003Ye-6e for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 10:35:33 -0700 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:35:33 -0700 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Language evolution Message-ID: <20031008173533.GO8393@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20031007000716.GZ1970@digitalkingdom.org> <20031006200619.C74681-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031006200619.C74681-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-archive-position: 6383 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 20865 On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 08:08:58PM -0400, Invent Yourself wrote: > On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 05:01:35PM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > A language that conveyed all information unambiguously, say Ferrer > > > i Cancho and Sol?, would have a separate word for every thing, > > > concept or action it referred to. Such a language would be > > > formidably complicated for the speaker: the green of grass, for > > > example, would be represented by a totally different word to the > > > green of sea, an emerald or an oak leaf. > > > > Sorry. If I had read this paragraph before I sent it here, I > > wouldn't have bothered. > > ma naldrani le sidbo be le nu le cimni bangu cu sarcu le ka satci > .i le ni sinxa cu tolpabdu'i le jei satci "tolpabdu'i" ?= inversely proportional? If so, I don't think that means what you want it to mean, because what you just said means "As the number of symbols increases, the amount of truth decreases". -Robin -- Me: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. "but I'm not stupid and people are not stupid who think samely with me" -- from an actual, real, non-spam mail sent to webmaster@lojban.org http://www.lojban.org/ *** .i cimo'o prali .ui