From jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Wed Oct 08 08:43:33 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 83164 invoked from network); 8 Oct 2003 15:43:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Oct 2003 15:43:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Oct 2003 15:43:33 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.22) id 1A7GTL-00024C-U6 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 08:43:31 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A7GSo-00023X-3C; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 08:42:58 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 08 Oct 2003 08:42:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web41902.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.153]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A7GSV-00023E-Mv for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 08:42:39 -0700 Message-ID: <20031008141501.86184.qmail@web41902.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.49.74.2] by web41902.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 07:15:01 PDT Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:15:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [lojban] Re: consolation To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <000901c38d28$3590dbc0$02e1fea9@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 6381 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Jorge "Llambías" Reply-To: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=142311107 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 20863 la and cusku di'e > I would take mulno to mean "finished" & hence no state can be > a mulno. IOW either {le nu mi gleki cu mulno} is false, or > le nu mi gleki is not a state but a finishable event. That would make the meaning of mulno more precise, but the gi'uste seems to give it a much broader meaning, more like "not lacking any of its constituents", so that for processes it means all stages have been actualized, but for states it would mean that the state is completely actualized, not a marginal or dubious "incomplete" case. If mulno does have the general meaning I read from the gi'uste, it would be useful to have lujvo for the more restricted and precise meanings, of course. Perhaps {rucmu'o}, process-complete, for the mo'u sense. mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com