From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Oct 29 08:34:27 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 30959 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2003 16:34:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Oct 2003 16:34:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Oct 2003 16:34:26 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AEtH7-0007Ns-FY for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:34:25 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AEtGa-0007N1-IO; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:33:52 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:33:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr ([139.179.30.24]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AEtGH-0007MM-Gu for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:33:33 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD2531DD6 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:33:00 +0200 (EET) Received: from bilkent.edu.tr (ppp117.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr [139.179.111.117]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB1B2D423 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:32:58 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3F9FEE71.9080300@bilkent.edu.tr> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:44:33 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [lojban] Re: About having lunch.... References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020531 X-archive-position: 6522 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: robin@bilkent.edu.tr X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-From: robin From: robin Reply-To: robin@bilkent.edu.tr X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21003 Llu'is Batlle i Rossell wrote: > Hi! > > I don't know how can I utter something like "I have lunch here". > I suggest: > mi vi citka le dormijysai > > But that meaning is "I eat the lunch here". It isn't the same... so anyone > suggests a better way of saying that? What is the difference between eating lunch and having lunch? English frequently uses "have" where the action involved is obvious. If you want to emphasise the whole event of lunch rather than the mere eating of it, I suppose you could use a "nu" construction, but I can't really see the point. In many natural languages, you'd have to say "eat lunch" anyway. robin.tr -- "I declare this sentence a performative!" Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin