From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri Oct 10 16:17:44 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 28210 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2003 23:17:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Oct 2003 23:17:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Oct 2003 23:17:41 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.22) id 1A86Vv-0005o4-Jg for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:17:39 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A86VP-0005mz-A0; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:17:07 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr ([139.179.30.24]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A86V7-0005mK-43 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:16:49 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8924D320B0 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 02:16:16 +0300 (EEST) Received: from bilkent.edu.tr (ppp113.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr [139.179.111.113]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA2332041 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 02:16:14 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <3F874050.4050203@bilkent.edu.tr> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 02:27:12 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030701 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Gone 1 1/2 years... References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020531 X-archive-position: 6411 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: robin@bilkent.edu.tr Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: robin From: robin Reply-To: robin@bilkent.edu.tr X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 20893 Craig wrote: >>Is the default radix still decimal? I had argued it should be >>hexadecimal. >> >> > >There is a good case to be made for both hex and dozenal. > >HOWEVER, Lojban is trying to be easy for people. Not as its primary goal, >obviously, but we don't want to alienate all of our learners. Making the >non-mathematically-inclined people who might want to learn the language have >to jump through hoops to understand all of our numbers is the worng way to >go about spreading the language, no matter how good the reasons for the >change. Consequently, if a proposal came before the BPFK to make the default >radix be hex, I would vote it down. Not because hex is harmful - it isn't - >but because the change would make it harder for new people to learn Lojban, >thus making it harder for Lojban to spread. > > Hex is currently in vogue because we think binary computers are cool, but there is nothing to make it inherently superior. As a kid, I was a big fan of octal. robin.tr -- "I can say: 'Thank these bees for their honey as though they were kind people who have prepared it for you'; that is intelligible and describes how I should like you to conduct yourself. But I cannot say: 'Thank them because, look, how kind they are!'--since the next moment they may sting you. - Wittgenstein Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin