From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Oct 07 07:28:41 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 5489 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2003 14:28:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m19.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Oct 2003 14:28:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Oct 2003 14:28:40 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.22) id 1A6spL-0006d5-CU for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 07:28:39 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A6soj-0006cT-DT; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 07:28:01 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 07 Oct 2003 07:27:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yuha.menta.net ([212.78.128.42]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A6soQ-0006c4-DN for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 07:27:42 -0700 Received: from gibson.menta.net ([212.78.128.22]) by yuha.menta.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HME5KK00.5YK for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 16:29:08 +0200 Received: from vicerveza.atutiplen.net ([62.57.137.154]) by gibson.menta.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 gibson Mar 14 2002 21:29:48) with ESMTP id HME5O100.42U for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 16:31:13 +0200 Received: by vicerveza.atutiplen.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4D64F993C; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 16:25:34 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 16:25:32 +0200 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Language evolution Message-ID: <20031007142532.GA29502@vicerveza.menta.net> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20031007000135.GX1970@digitalkingdom.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031007000135.GX1970@digitalkingdom.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 6354 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: viric@vicerveza.homeunix.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Llu'is Batlle i Rossell From: Llu'is Batlle i Rossell Reply-To: viric@vicerveza.homeunix.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 20836 On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 05:01:35PM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > Language evolved in a leap > > The richness of human languages is a fine-tuned compromise between the needs > of speakers and of listeners, explain Ramon Ferrer i Cancho and Ricard Sol? of > the Universitat Pompeu Fabra in Barcelona. Just a slight imbalance of these > demands prevents the exchange of complex information, they argue. By the way... I live half kilometer from Universitat Pompeu Fabra, inside Barcelona. It's nice some work made by catalan people here in the lojban list. :) I promised some lojban records for this weekend; sorry, but my microphone records very bad (I thought it could record much better). If you want HiQ sound, I'm not the chosen one. Anyway, I'm trying to read (and record) tiki tiki tembo with some emotions shown in the tone I speak (like a story for kids). It's a bit hard, as I'm a lojban beginner. When I finish recording it - I have not much time for that - I'll post something here. -- "... el quid de la qüestió està en l'educació: en la filosofia didàctica, l'opció ignorància hauria d'existir: tu què vols ser? Jo, enginyer; jo, metge; jo, ignorant: és a dir, vull aprendre a viure però no vull saber-ho tot." -- Pau Riba, entrevista a "Paper de Vidre", núm. 5