From phma@webjockey.net Tue Oct 07 06:28:01 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 1514 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2003 13:28:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Oct 2003 13:28:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Oct 2003 13:28:01 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.22) id 1A6rsc-0005wd-Fu for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 06:27:58 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A6rrg-0005vl-U0; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 06:27:00 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 07 Oct 2003 06:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 208-150-110-21-adsl.precisionet.net ([208.150.110.21] helo=blackcat.ixazon.lan) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A6rrK-0005vP-2O for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 06:26:38 -0700 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4B6C23A35; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:25:37 +0000 (UTC) Organization: dis To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Dalai Lama Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:25:35 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200310070925.35972.phma@webjockey.net> X-archive-position: 6351 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Pierre Abbat Reply-To: phma@webjockey.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=92712300 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 20833 I've figured it out: la daliblamas. Tibetan spelling is as conklepated as English or French or Gaelic, and the word "lama" is spelled with a silent 'b'. {pancenlamas} does not need the 'b', and the 't' drops out because of a Lojban spelling rule. la tenzin.giatsoz. ca me la daliblamas. According to the list on Wikipedia, all but the first Dalai Lama had the last name "Gyatso". How come? "Tenzing" appears to be a common name on both sides of the Himalayas (another famous Tenzing climbed Mount Everest with Hillary); what's it mean, and where did it come from? phma -- .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga .icu'u la ma'atman.