From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri Oct 17 16:11:53 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 90533 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2003 23:11:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Oct 2003 23:11:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Oct 2003 23:11:52 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AAdl9-00034o-F3 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:11:51 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AAdkd-00032E-VH; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:11:20 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:11:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AAdjd-00030n-Gb for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:10:17 -0700 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:10:17 -0700 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Posterity Badness. Message-ID: <20031017231017.GZ1016@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20031016233042.GL1016@digitalkingdom.org> <20031017105806.P29733-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031017105806.P29733-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-archive-position: 6458 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 20939 On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 11:02:48AM -0400, Invent Yourself wrote: > On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 11:12:52AM -0700, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > > > > > > --- Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > > 'angeli'. > > > > > > > > Other than that, no idea. Having seen the word 'angeli', I > > > > simply assumed that it was written by a very poor Lojbanist, > > > > and didn't read the rest. I'm rather surprised to find out > > > > I was wrong. > > > > > > That's an odd reaction. {angeli} is a valid fu'ivla, it is the > > > type of culturally specific word that fu'ivla were meant for, > > > and on top of that it has seen some usage other than in this > > > piece. I remembered having read this passage on the list > > > before, though I didn't remember it was from tsali. > > > > I don't like type-4. I *especially* don't like type-4 > > when the concept is trivially expressible with a lujvo (in this > > case cesru'i or cesycrida, take your pick). > > > > And I had no idea it was valid. My internal Lojban recognizer > > screamed at the sight of it > > > ju'oru'e ganai da'i do nalglico je lojbo sanji gi do ka'enai srera > tu'a lo glico seri'a le nu lojbo lanli zo angeli .i la'aru'e ku'i ba'anai mi pu mo'aroi tadni lo fu'ivla -Robin -- Me: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. "Constant neocortex override is the only thing that stops us all from running out and eating all the cookies." -- Eliezer Yudkowsky http://www.lojban.org/ *** .i cimo'o prali .ui