From sentto-44114-21142-1068682462-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Wed Nov 12 16:18:18 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:18:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.84]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AK5Bb-0000lu-U5 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:18:12 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-21142-1068682462-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.201] by n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Nov 2003 00:14:25 -0000 X-Sender: hfroark@bigmailbox.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 14979 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2003 00:14:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Nov 2003 00:14:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.70) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 2003 00:14:24 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.140] by n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Nov 2003 00:14:14 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "hfroark" X-Originating-IP: 66.218.66.70 X-Yahoo-Profile: hfroark MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 00:14:07 -0000 Subject: [lojban] Question about lujvo-making Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 6639 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: hfroark@bigmailbox.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list I'm having trouble making sense of rule 5 in the lujvo-making algorithm in http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter4.html#s11 It says to test all forms with the pattern "CVC ... CVC + X". To be perfectly clear does this mean that all the rafsi in the "..." portion must be CVC forms? The second part says that: 'X must either be a CVCCV long rafsi that happens to have a permissible initial pair as the consonant cluster, or is something which has caused a "y"-hyphen to be installed between the previous CVC and itself by one of the above rules'. If X is not one of those does that mean the test terminates with no changes needed? The 5c says: 'Install a "y"-hyphen at the first such joint'. Is that the the first from right-to-left or left-to-right? If it is the right-to-left then what is done if the first such joint is between the X portion and it's immediately preceding CVC and a "y"-hyphen is already at that joint? mu'o mi'e. rork. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/