From sentto-44114-21292-1069787651-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Tue Nov 25 11:14:48 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:14:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.64]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AOie3-0005Zc-0i for lojban-in@lojban.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:14:43 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-21292-1069787651-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.199] by n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Nov 2003 19:14:11 -0000 X-Sender: cowan@mercury.ccil.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 62147 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2003 19:14:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Nov 2003 19:14:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mercury.ccil.org) (192.190.237.100) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2003 19:14:10 -0000 Received: from cowan by mercury.ccil.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AOidT-00028Z-00; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 14:14:07 -0500 To: Jorge =?iso-8859-1?Q?Llamb=EDas?= Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <20031125191407.GF26214@mercury.ccil.org> References: <20031125180200.GU9729@digitalkingdom.org> <20031125184043.49942.qmail@web41904.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031125184043.49942.qmail@web41904.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-eGroups-From: John Cowan From: John Cowan X-Originating-IP: 192.190.237.100 X-Yahoo-Profile: johnwcowan MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 14:14:07 -0500 Subject: [lojban] Re: bakyjba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 6789 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: cowan@ccil.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Jorge Llamb?as scripsit: > (I don't > recognize any of them myself, and I probably still wouldn't if I > knew what their corresponding name in Spanish was.) > How are cowberries associated with cows, BTW? They belong to the genus _Vaccinium_, and this is a classical word (not a modern calque), so the association "cowberry" is ancient. Many plants are associated with animals in ways now mysterious. AFAIK _Vaccinium_ is confined to the North Temperate Zone. The generic Spanish name FWIW appears to be arándano. Other species in Vaccinium include the lingonberry = mountain cranberry, the whortleberry = huckleberry, and the bilberries (it's possible that "blueberry" is a folk etymology of "bilberry"). > Are cranberries associated with cranes? Sort of. "Cranberry" is a half-calque of a Low German term that indeed meant "crane+berry", but the "cran" part is not perceived by anglophones as meaning "crane", and indeed "cranberry morph" is a term used by linguists for something liek the "cran-" in "cranberry", which appears to be bi-morphemic but where the first morph has no synchronic meaning. -- John Cowan jcowan@reutershealth.com At times of peril or dubitation, http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Perform swift circular ambulation, http://www.reutershealth.com With loud and high-pitched ululation. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/