From xod@thestonecutters.net Mon Nov 24 10:16:55 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 19324 invoked from network); 24 Nov 2003 18:16:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Nov 2003 18:16:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Nov 2003 18:16:49 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AOLBR-0000nu-8X for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:11:37 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AOLAp-0000mn-CF; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:10:59 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:10:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from [66.111.194.10] (helo=granite.thestonecutters.net) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AOLAh-0000mD-Mf for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:10:51 -0800 Received: from granite.thestonecutters.net (localhost.thestonecutters.net [127.0.0.1]) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.12.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAOIB9oM060117 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:11:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) Received: from localhost (xod@localhost) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id hAOIB9q2060114 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:11:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) X-Authentication-Warning: granite.thestonecutters.net: xod owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:11:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: [lojban] Re: Is srana symmetrical? In-Reply-To: <20031124180229.GR9729@digitalkingdom.org> Message-ID: <20031124130807.P59273-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 6761 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xod@thestonecutters.net X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com From: Invent Yourself Reply-To: xod@thestonecutters.net X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=110189215 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21242 On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 06:10:23PM -0800, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > > > > --- Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > > > > In otherwords, is the following lojban statment true: > > > > > > le du'u da srana de cu roroi nibli le du'u de srana da > > > > The tag {sera'a} is used much more frequently than plain {ra'a}. > > That at least would seem to suggest that {srana} is not > > symmetrical. > > That is much more likely to be because the keyword for ra'a, > "pertained to by", is incredibly confusing. > > I, for one, have no idea what it means, and have been avoiding ra'a > for that reason. mi da'i darlu ji'u tu'a zoi xy. pertain .xy .i ku'i la'e di'u nu darlu ji'u tu'a le glico .iseni'ibo .ei cpedu fi la .bab. -- DR. EDDIE: (defensive) They were performance pieces. ANDERTON: You set your patients on fire! DR. EDDIE: And put them out. Some not as quickly as others, but let's change the subject, shall we?