From xod@thestonecutters.net Fri Nov 07 16:07:08 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 53358 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2003 00:07:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Nov 2003 00:07:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2003 00:07:07 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AIGd8-0004n5-9j for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 16:07:06 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AIGcE-0004mL-Fr; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 16:06:10 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 07 Nov 2003 16:05:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from [66.111.194.10] (helo=granite.thestonecutters.net) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AIGSw-0004bw-Qd for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 15:56:34 -0800 Received: from granite.thestonecutters.net (localhost.thestonecutters.net [127.0.0.1]) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.12.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hA7NpfV4090128 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:51:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) Received: from localhost (xod@localhost) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id hA7Npe6K090124 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:51:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) X-Authentication-Warning: granite.thestonecutters.net: xod owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:51:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: [lojban] Re: Question on "ro" In-Reply-To: <20031107231047.27542.qmail@web41902.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031107185102.Y89889-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 6603 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xod@thestonecutters.net X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com From: Invent Yourself Reply-To: xod@thestonecutters.net X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=110189215 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21084 On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Jorge Llambías wrote: > > --- "Stefan \"1of3\" Koch" wrote: > > coi. > > > > Some time ago there was a discussion on this list whether "ro" is importing > > or not. I wasn't able to follow the discussion at that time since I didn't > > have enough knowledge of logics. > > > > By now I am a student of math (and Latin but that doesn't matter here) and I > > can see the problem. I just don't know what the result of the discussion > > was. I don't want to start the discussion all over again but I want to know > > whether any consensus was found. > > > > ki'e mu'omi'e ctefan. > > You may or may not find the answer here: :) > > > > http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=quantification+and+the+meaning+of+ro Whether or not a consensus was found probably depends on whom you ask. -- Implicit in the term "national defense" is the notion of defending those values and ideals which set this Nation apart. United States Supreme Court, U.S. v. Robel (1967)