From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Nov 04 04:47:01 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 51942 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2003 12:46:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Nov 2003 12:46:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Nov 2003 12:46:46 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AH0a5-0006hE-0Q for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 04:46:45 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AH0ZZ-0006gW-8k; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 04:46:13 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 04 Nov 2003 04:46:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from yuha.menta.net ([212.78.128.42]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AH0Z3-0006eR-5c for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 04:45:41 -0800 Received: from gibson.menta.net ([212.78.128.22]) by yuha.menta.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HNTVIP03.D68 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:47:13 +0100 Received: from vicerveza.atutiplen.net ([62.57.139.16]) by gibson.menta.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 gibson Mar 14 2002 21:29:48) with ESMTP id HNTVLU01.MBK for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:49:06 +0100 Received: from llimona (llimona [192.168.1.3]) by vicerveza.atutiplen.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E8818060 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:52:23 +0100 (CET) Received: by llimona (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 43DDB1BF8B60; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:46:17 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:46:17 +0100 Subject: [lojban] Re: Now in mp3 Message-ID: <20031104124617.GC2672@llimona.atutiplen.net> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 6563 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: viric@vicerveza.homeunix.net X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-From: Llu'is Batlle i Rossell From: Llu'is Batlle i Rossell Reply-To: viric@vicerveza.homeunix.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21044 On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 07:36:58AM -0500, Craig wrote: > >How strict is the pronounciation of "e" supposed to be? I notice that some > of your e's are pronounced (sound to me) either like long e's as >in beet or > long a's as in mate. Is this acceptible lojban? Are there any cases where it > can be ambiguous? i.e. do the words "cmeni" or >"zei'a" exist? > > The a of mate in English is a tense lojban e, and is thus acceptable. > Actually, it's more of an ei, since English tends to dipthongize vowels. If I had to lojbanize 'mate', I'd write: meit. > > Gismu can differ only in stressed vowel, but not only in unstressed vowel. Oh, I didn't know about that. -- "... el quid de la qüestió està en l'educació: en la filosofia didàctica, l'opció ignorància hauria d'existir: tu què vols ser? Jo, enginyer; jo, metge; jo, ignorant: és a dir, vull aprendre a viure però no vull saber-ho tot." -- Pau Riba, entrevista a "Paper de Vidre", núm. 5