From hfroark@bigmailbox.net Wed Nov 12 16:14:24 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: hfroark@bigmailbox.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 14979 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2003 00:14:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Nov 2003 00:14:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.70) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 2003 00:14:24 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.140] by n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Nov 2003 00:14:14 -0000 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 00:14:07 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Question about lujvo-making Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 992 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "hfroark" X-Originating-IP: 66.218.66.70 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=81005150 X-Yahoo-Profile: hfroark X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21120 I'm having trouble making sense of rule 5 in the lujvo-making algorithm in http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter4.html#s11 It says to test all forms with the pattern "CVC ... CVC + X". To be perfectly clear does this mean that all the rafsi in the "..." portion must be CVC forms? The second part says that: 'X must either be a CVCCV long rafsi that happens to have a permissible initial pair as the consonant cluster, or is something which has caused a "y"-hyphen to be installed between the previous CVC and itself by one of the above rules'. If X is not one of those does that mean the test terminates with no changes needed? The 5c says: 'Install a "y"-hyphen at the first such joint'. Is that the the first from right-to-left or left-to-right? If it is the right-to-left then what is done if the first such joint is between the X portion and it's immediately preceding CVC and a "y"-hyphen is already at that joint? mu'o mi'e. rork.