From jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Tue Nov 18 04:33:46 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 33794 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2003 12:33:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Nov 2003 12:33:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Nov 2003 12:33:45 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AM50q-0000aC-IP for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 04:31:20 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AM50I-0000Tt-U3; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 04:30:46 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 18 Nov 2003 04:30:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from web41902.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.153]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AM4zw-0000OQ-0c for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 04:30:24 -0800 Message-ID: <20031118123215.40023.qmail@web41902.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.49.74.2] by web41902.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 04:32:15 PST Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 04:32:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [lojban] Re: {Archivist} niltei? In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20031117225022.03043940@pop.east.cox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 6727 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com From: Jorge "Llambías" Reply-To: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=142311107 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21208 --- Bob LeChevalier wrote: > At 01:07 AM 11/18/03 +0000, jjllambias2000 wrote: > >--- In lojban@yahoogroups.com, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > > > At 10:45 PM 11/16/03 -0800, Robin wrote: > > > > li muno cu niltei lo nanca le mi mivytei > > > >for "I am 50 years old", right? > > > That was the theory, whether people choose to accept it or not %^) > >I'm > > > equally amenable to dropping the x2 in favor of lo nanca be li muno > >for > > > x1. The point was to distinguish the interval from its measurement. > > > >The interval goes in the x1 of nanca, and the measurement in x2, > >right? The double meaning of ni shows in that you are equally happy > >with either for the x1 of ni. > > "Happy"? Rather, I am "accepting". Since I never bought into jvajvo 100%, > I can accept that people might choose one or the other based on aesthetics > or brevity, and both work. Is the x1 of ni a klani or a se klani? The x1 of niltei should be of the same type. > >Since you can say {le mi mivytei cu nanca li muno}, > > it is not clear what {niltei} adds. > > It adds niltei as a selbri for the concept. I'm not sure I ever claimed > anything more than that. not all selbri will be immensely useful. But for which concept? If it can be either the nanca or the se nanca, it seems to add to the confusion. mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree