Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 13640 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2003 11:50:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Nov 2003 11:50:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2003 11:50:40 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AQQ63-0006Ea-HV for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 03:50:39 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AQQ5V-0006Dt-DN; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 03:50:05 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 30 Nov 2003 03:49:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from ms-smtp-04-smtplb.tampabay.rr.com ([65.32.5.134] helo=ms-smtp-04.tampabay.rr.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AQQ5G-0006Dg-5I for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 03:49:50 -0800 Received: from [192.168.0.14] (214.92.35.65.cfl.rr.com [65.35.92.214]) by ms-smtp-04.tampabay.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAUBnkh5028526; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 06:49:46 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <200311291928.08885.phma@webjockey.net> References: <20031130001314.17921.qmail@web41906.mail.yahoo.com> <200311291928.08885.phma@webjockey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <4A4C61DA-232B-11D8-837A-00039362FD2A@macsrule.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: [lojban] Re: pofydi'u (was: "Tintin - L'Ile Noire" in Lojban) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 06:49:44 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-archive-position: 6825 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rmcivor@macsrule.com X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Robert McIvor From: Robert McIvor Reply-To: rmcivor@macsrule.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21306 Content-Length: 1923 Lines: 65 On Nov 29, 2003, at 7:28 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Saturday 29 November 2003 19:13, Jorge "Llambías" wrote: >> {fd} is a forbidden pair, because it is unvoiced-voiced. >> {vd} and {ft} would be the corresponding voiced-voiced and >> unvoiced-unvoiced pairs. > > Also a 'y' can be required if the word is a tosmabru. (I'm not sure > what > "tosmabru" is supposed to mean. "tos" isn't the rafsi of anything.) > Some > examples are jesyratcu (porcupine), jesymabru (hedgehog or spiny > anteater, > va'i ernace fa'u zalgosu), and bakyrectu (beef). If you drop the 'y' > you get > something from which the first two letters fall off. To anyone interested, tosmabru is a carryover from Institute Loglan. It was a made up (but otherwise legal) word, to show that a word made in this fashion would break up into to smabru (two smokers[smoke breathers])). Slinkui comes from the same source. If permitted, paslinkui (past-linear-kin = ancestors) would become illegal. Ultimately we allowed slinkui words by requiring paslinkui words to be hyphenated as pasylinkui. > >> How about {spoja'e}:{x1 jalge lo daspo be x2}. >> "x1 is the result/outcome of the destruction of x2". > > Sounds good too. Use 'em both. > > phma > -- > .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do > .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga > .icu'u la ma'atman. > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ---------------------~--> > Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark > Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & > Canada. > http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 > http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/GSaulB/TM > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > ~-> > > To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > >