From cowan@ccil.org Mon Nov 03 05:35:01 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: cowan@mercury.ccil.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 55698 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2003 13:35:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Nov 2003 13:35:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mercury.ccil.org) (192.190.237.100) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Nov 2003 13:35:00 -0000 Received: from cowan by mercury.ccil.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AGerD-0002aq-00; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 08:34:59 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 08:34:59 -0500 To: Mr Ekted Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Implied sumti ordering Message-ID: <20031103133459.GB32645@mercury.ccil.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-eGroups-From: John Cowan From: John Cowan X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=212516 X-Yahoo-Profile: johnwcowan X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21022 Mr Ekted scripsit: > x1 citka x2 (eats) > > If I say "fe le rectu cu citka mi" is this malglico? "mi" is technically > the third sumti right? But in this case, there are only two sumti > defined by the selbri, so does "mi" automatically become x1? No, the x1 slot remains open, so this means "You-know-who eats the meat in-some-way-associated-with me." Since citka has no defined x3 place, the exact nature of the relevance of "mi" to the relationship is not defined either. > But I'm trying to understand the extent of the ordering rules. If I > am correct, what happens with a 3 sumti selbri if I do the same thing? > > fe A cu selbri B > > In this case B is x3 by default? Yes, and x1 is still open. -- If you understand, John Cowan things are just as they are; http://www.ccil.org/~cowan if you do not understand, http://www.reutershealth.com things are just as they are. jcowan@reutershealth.com