Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:30:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from n17.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.72]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AMGEH-0004qT-N1 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:29:58 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-21234-1069201847-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.194] by n17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Nov 2003 00:32:02 -0000 X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 8225 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2003 00:30:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Nov 2003 00:30:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lakemtao02.cox.net) (68.1.17.243) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Nov 2003 00:30:45 -0000 Received: from bob.lojban.org ([68.228.12.146]) by lakemtao02.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031119003043.UQHR2297.lakemtao02.cox.net@bob.lojban.org> for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:30:43 -0500 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20031118192733.03581680@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: lojbab@pop.east.cox.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <20031118123215.40023.qmail@web41902.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20031117225022.03043940@pop.east.cox.net> From: Bob LeChevalier X-Originating-IP: 68.1.17.243 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbab MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:32:08 -0500 Subject: [lojban] Re: {Archivist} niltei? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 6731 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lojbab@lojban.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Content-Length: 1936 Lines: 51 At 04:32 AM 11/18/03 -0800, Jorge "Llambías" wrote: > > >The interval goes in the x1 of nanca, and the measurement in x2, > > >right? The double meaning of ni shows in that you are equally happy > > >with either for the x1 of ni. > > > > "Happy"? Rather, I am "accepting". Since I never bought into jvajvo > 100%, > > I can accept that people might choose one or the other based on aesthetics > > or brevity, and both work. > >Is the x1 of ni a klani or a se klani? The x1 of niltei should >be of the same type. If one insists on jvajvo rules, I suppose so. Maybe the byfy will get around to answering the question, if it isn't obvious in the place structure. If there were no byfy, I would make a ruling; as it is, I defer to others. > > >Since you can say {le mi mivytei cu nanca li muno}, > > > it is not clear what {niltei} adds. > > > > It adds niltei as a selbri for the concept. I'm not sure I ever claimed > > anything more than that. not all selbri will be immensely useful. > >But for which concept? If it can be either the nanca or the se nanca, >it seems to add to the confusion. Huh? se nanca is a pure number lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, Founder, The Logical Language Group (Opinions are my own; I do not speak for the organization.) Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/