From jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Sat Nov 15 08:44:17 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 96255 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2003 16:44:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Nov 2003 16:44:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Nov 2003 16:44:16 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AL3Vr-0004u7-Iq for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:43:07 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AL3VJ-0004t0-P1; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:42:33 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:42:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from web41903.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.154]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AL3V5-0004se-Dv for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:42:19 -0800 Message-ID: <20031115164257.88201.qmail@web41903.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.69.6.30] by web41903.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:42:57 PST Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:42:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [lojban] Re: COI, UI (was Re: cfari) In-Reply-To: <20031115051825.GB9314@mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 6714 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com From: Jorge "Llambías" Reply-To: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=142311107 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21195 --- Rob Speer wrote: > > How about the phrase "12 meters from here", or "five minutes ago", or > any such quantified tense that has no good way to be specified in > Lojban? You can always resort to full explicit predicates: ko'a le zvati cu sepli lo mitre be li pare Ko'a from here is separated by 12 meters. lo mentu be li mu cu temci ko'a le cabna Five minutes is the time from ko'a to now. And you can replace ko'a with whatever event you want to say happened 12 meters from here or five minutes ago. But that is of course very cumbersome for something needed so often, so I use {va lo mitre be li pare} and {[pu] za lo mentu be li mu}. mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree