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On Wednesday 26 November 2003 03:32, Martin Norb=E4ck wrote:
> The fruit that we in Sweden call "bl=E5b=E4r" [blueberry] is Vaccinium
> myrtillus which may be what you call "bilberry".

I've heard blueberries called "myrtilles" in French. That must be the speci=
es=20
referred to. I've thought of calling them "mirtili" in Lojban.

> They are very much blue, see for instance this picture:
> http://www.voringfossen.com/flora/blaabaer.jpg
>
> The English "blueberry" seems to be Vaccinium corymbosum, which can be
> found in North America and Asia.
>
> In general, since different plants grow in different places, the only
> clean solution is to use the systematic names. There are some guidelines
> for lojbanizing them in the CLL (Chapter 4.8). So the two different
> blueberries would be "vakcinium.mirtilus" and "vakcinium.korimbosum".
>
> These a cmene but who cares.

The proper way to make a common name in Lojban is to use a brivla with a cm=
ene=20
(which can be "la"+a brivla, as well as a cmevla) in x2. So "bakyjba be la=
=20
mirtilus." Of course, colloquially we can just say "blanu bakyjba".

phma
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