Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 34230 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2003 00:28:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Nov 2003 00:28:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2003 00:28:27 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AQFRq-0003bT-15 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:28:26 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AQFRO-0003ah-JW; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:27:58 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:27:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp4.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.27] helo=mwinf0403.wanadoo.fr) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AQFR8-0003aA-B1 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:27:42 -0800 Received: from [81.48.151.158] (ASt-Lambert-106-1-2-158.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.48.151.158]) by mwinf0403.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 307305000290 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 01:27:10 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) In-Reply-To: <20031130001314.17921.qmail@web41906.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031130001314.17921.qmail@web41906.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Subject: [lojban] Re: pofydi'u (was: "Tintin - L'Ile Noire" in Lojban) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 01:27:08 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) X-archive-position: 6817 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jerome@desquilbet.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=E9r=F4me_Desquilbet?= From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=E9r=F4me_Desquilbet?= Reply-To: jerome@desquilbet.org X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21299 Content-Length: 436 Lines: 16 >> Why is the {y} needed? I thought that it was needed only if the >> consonnant pair is forbidden? >> Sorry if it is a beginners question. > > {fd} is a forbidden pair, because it is unvoiced-voiced. > {vd} and {ft} would be the corresponding voiced-voiced and > unvoiced-unvoiced pairs. Thanks, I didn't check enough "6. Consonant Clusters" in http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter3.html ...