Return-Path: X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 46226 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2003 00:28:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Nov 2003 00:28:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blackcat.ixazon.lan) (208.150.110.21) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2003 00:28:12 -0000 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1EEC54DFB; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 00:28:09 +0000 (UTC) Organization: dis To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: pofydi'u (was: "Tintin - L'Ile Noire" in Lojban) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:28:08 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <20031130001314.17921.qmail@web41906.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031130001314.17921.qmail@web41906.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200311291928.08885.phma@webjockey.net> X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 208.150.110.21 From: Pierre Abbat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=92712300 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21298 Content-Length: 829 Lines: 25 On Saturday 29 November 2003 19:13, Jorge "Llamb=EDas" wrote: > {fd} is a forbidden pair, because it is unvoiced-voiced. > {vd} and {ft} would be the corresponding voiced-voiced and > unvoiced-unvoiced pairs. Also a 'y' can be required if the word is a tosmabru. (I'm not sure what=20 "tosmabru" is supposed to mean. "tos" isn't the rafsi of anything.) Some=20 examples are jesyratcu (porcupine), jesymabru (hedgehog or spiny anteater,= =20 va'i ernace fa'u zalgosu), and bakyrectu (beef). If you drop the 'y' you ge= t=20 something from which the first two letters fall off. > How about {spoja'e}:{x1 jalge lo daspo be x2}. > "x1 is the result/outcome of the destruction of x2". Sounds good too. Use 'em both. phma --=20 .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga .icu'u la ma'atman.