From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Nov 10 01:15:15 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 79113 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2003 09:15:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Nov 2003 09:15:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2003 09:15:15 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AJ88X-0003h6-To for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 01:15:05 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AJ884-0003gg-Tm; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 01:14:36 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 10 Nov 2003 01:14:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from postman2.arcor-online.net ([151.189.0.188] helo=postman.arcor.de) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AJ87l-0003gX-Ew for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 01:14:17 -0800 Received: from hamwpne1 (cou.ch [212.13.198.90]) (authenticated bits=0) by postman.arcor.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAA9ELgj010297 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:14:23 +0100 (MET) Organization: datenrevision GmbH & Co. OHG Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:14:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [lojban] Verbing weirds language Message-ID: <3FAF64F8.31446.1F7B3E@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02a) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-description: Mail message body X-archive-position: 6612 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pnewton@gmx.de X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-From: "Philip Newton" From: "Philip Newton" Reply-To: pnewton@gmx.de X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21093 I was thinking of Calvin's statement that "every noun can be verbed". Then I considered how to say that in Lojban, before realising that it's probably meaningless there. I think the equivalent in Lojban grammatical terms would be roughly "every brivla can be used as a selbri", but if you told a Lojbanist that, they'd probably react as if you had said "every gismu has five letters", since both statements are (to me) tautologies. mu'o mi'e .filip. -- filip.niutyn.