From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Nov 24 10:08:31 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 93850 invoked from network); 24 Nov 2003 18:08:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Nov 2003 18:08:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Nov 2003 18:08:26 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AOL3M-0000hC-46 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:03:16 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AOL2q-0000gd-Er; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:02:44 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:02:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AOL2b-0000gM-6o for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:02:29 -0800 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:02:29 -0800 Subject: [lojban] Re: Is srana symmetrical? Message-ID: <20031124180229.GR9729@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20031123212113.GO9729@digitalkingdom.org> <20031124021023.5480.qmail@web41902.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031124021023.5480.qmail@web41902.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-archive-position: 6760 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21241 On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 06:10:23PM -0800, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > > --- Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > > In otherwords, is the following lojban statment true: > > > > le du'u da srana de cu roroi nibli le du'u de srana da > > The tag {sera'a} is used much more frequently than plain {ra'a}. > That at least would seem to suggest that {srana} is not > symmetrical. That is much more likely to be because the keyword for ra'a, "pertained to by", is incredibly confusing. I, for one, have no idea what it means, and have been avoiding ra'a for that reason. -Robin -- Me: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. "Constant neocortex override is the only thing that stops us all from running out and eating all the cookies." -- Eliezer Yudkowsky http://www.lojban.org/ *** .i cimo'o prali .ui