Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 11535 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2003 00:14:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Nov 2003 00:14:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2003 00:14:29 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AQFEK-0003MV-LY for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:14:28 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AQFDr-0003Lp-7u; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:13:59 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:13:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from web41906.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.157]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AQFDc-0003L4-W4 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:13:45 -0800 Message-ID: <20031130001314.17921.qmail@web41906.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.61.49.71] by web41906.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:13:14 PST Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:13:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [lojban] Re: pofydi'u (was: "Tintin - L'Ile Noire" in Lojban) In-Reply-To: <3B5B29DC-22C6-11D8-BC61-003065E00134@free.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 6816 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 From: Jorge "Llambías" Reply-To: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=142311107 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21297 Content-Length: 887 Lines: 33 --- "jexOm." wrote: > Le 30 nov. 03, à 00:19, Pierre Abbat a écrit : > > {pofydi'u} of course. An excellent suggestion, though the place > > structure > > (since {spofu} and {dinju} have the same) has to be "x1 is a building > > which > > can't be used for x2 anymore because it's ruined". > > Before I study this place structure issue: > Why is the {y} needed? I thought that it was needed only if the > consonnant pair is forbidden? > Sorry if it is a beginners question. {fd} is a forbidden pair, because it is unvoiced-voiced. {vd} and {ft} would be the corresponding voiced-voiced and unvoiced-unvoiced pairs. How about {spoja'e}:{x1 jalge lo daspo be x2}. "x1 is the result/outcome of the destruction of x2". mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/