From phma@webjockey.net Mon Nov 10 05:31:16 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 48900 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2003 13:31:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Nov 2003 13:31:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blackcat.ixazon.lan) (208.150.110.21) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2003 13:31:15 -0000 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 26535AB62; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:29:18 +0000 (UTC) Organization: dis To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Verbing weirds language Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:29:17 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <3FAF64F8.31446.1F7B3E@localhost> In-Reply-To: <3FAF64F8.31446.1F7B3E@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200311100829.17705.phma@webjockey.net> From: Pierre Abbat X-Originating-IP: 208.150.110.21 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=92712300 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21094 On Monday 10 November 2003 04:14, Philip Newton wrote: > I was thinking of Calvin's statement that "every noun can be verbed". > > Then I considered how to say that in Lojban, before realising that it's > probably meaningless there. > > I think the equivalent in Lojban grammatical terms would be roughly > "every brivla can be used as a selbri", but if you told a Lojbanist > that, they'd probably react as if you had said "every gismu has five > letters", since both statements are (to me) tautologies. Actually the Lojban noun is the cmevla, but for common nouns we use brivla. There are no adjectives or adverbs in Lojban, and it has terminators, which occur in no other language that I know of, and the predicate marker, which occurs in tok Pisin. phma -- .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga .icu'u la ma'atman.