From phma@webjockey.net Fri Nov 28 20:53:03 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 27947 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2003 04:53:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Nov 2003 04:53:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blackcat.ixazon.lan) (208.150.110.21) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2003 04:53:03 -0000 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9200C4E36; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 04:53:01 +0000 (UTC) Organization: dis To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] element names Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:53:00 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200311282353.00551.phma@webjockey.net> X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 208.150.110.21 From: Pierre Abbat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=92712300 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21289 On Tuesday 25 November 2003 21:11, MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com wrote: > In a message dated 2003-11-25 2:24:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > lojban@yahoogroups.com writes: > > I actually would expect elements to be fu'ivla; they seem to be an > > obvious place for them. Or possibly lujvo based on atomic weight. > > i would use atomic number instead of atomic weight, saving atomic weight to > distinguish between isotopes. I would use lujvo based on atomic number only for the transuranic elements which don't have names yet, such as unununium (pavypavypavycmu). The rest should be gismu, lujvo, or fu'ivla on a case-by-case basis. If you want to specify the atomic weight, you can say {fi'o te ratni li N}, which is wordy, or someone could add another word to XI for superscripts since subscripts in chemical formulas mean the number of atoms. phma -- .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga .icu'u la ma'atman.