From sentto-44114-21367-1070816428-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Sun Dec 07 09:01:12 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 07 Dec 2003 09:01:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from n4.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.88]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AT2HL-00083M-8A for lojban-in@lojban.org; Sun, 07 Dec 2003 09:01:07 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-21367-1070816428-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.157] by n4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Dec 2003 17:00:36 -0000 X-Sender: ragnarok@pobox.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 34383 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2003 17:00:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Dec 2003 17:00:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailserv1.intrex.net) (209.42.192.236) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Dec 2003 17:00:02 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailserv1.intrex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0375EAFD6 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 12:00:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from craig (unknown [209.42.212.114]) by mailserv1.intrex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 10FC9AD4C for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 12:00:02 -0500 (EST) To: Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20031206190525.GA9904@localhost.localdomain> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Virus-Scanned: by viruswatch at intrex.net X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 209.42.192.236 From: "Craig" X-Yahoo-Profile: kreig_daniyl MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:59:55 -0500 Subject: [lojban] Re: Thoughts on lojban prosody Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 6863 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ragnarok@pobox.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list I would suggest that the traditional Spanish way of doing meter might transfer excellently. The number of syllables is counted, but if the final word ends with a stressed syllable one is added. If there are any after the final stressed syllable, only the first of those are counted. So, if a nine-syllable line ends with a word like "LOBykai", it counts as only eight syllables; if it ends with a name like "la .DJAN.", it counts as ten. Then each line is given the same number of syllables. For example, a traditional "romance" has lines of eight syllables with vowel-rhyme on all of the even syllables. A sonnet has fourteen lines of eleven syllables each and a consonant (typical end-rhyme) rhyme scheme of ABBA ABBA and then some variable scheme for the final six lines. -- .kreig.daniyl. "Paginate my subjective reality, baby!" -Taliesin ragnarok@pobox.com teucer@bnomic.org ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/