From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Dec 01 19:14:56 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 47748 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2003 03:14:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Dec 2003 03:14:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Dec 2003 03:14:45 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AR0zi-0005jG-M9 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:14:34 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AR0zD-0005g1-Bp; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:14:03 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:13:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.57]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AR0yy-0005fq-0a for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:13:48 -0800 Received: from user-v7kak6n.dialup.mindspring.com ([207.69.80.215] helo=sodor.mindspring.com) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AR0yt-0006Ng-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 22:13:44 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by sodor.mindspring.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8205E420B for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:16:48 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 10/15/1999 with nmh-1.0.4 Subject: [lojban] Re: Origins of the prim/gismu list In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 01 Dec 2003 12:06:20 EST." <20031201170620.GA25519@mercury.ccil.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 22:16:48 -0500 Message-Id: <20031202031648.8205E420B@sodor.mindspring.com> X-archive-position: 6839 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rslau@mindspring.com X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Bob Slaughter From: Bob Slaughter Reply-To: rslau@mindspring.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21321 > What is known about the origins of the Loglan prim list? Did JCB just > cook up the English words out of his own head, or did he use some other > resources to do so? If you mean the list of English words to make gismu from, one of the sources is a list of 'common' words used in glottochronology. It isn't meant as a list of 'primitive' words, but as a list of words that are in 'all' languages. If I remember this was stated in the 'original' 1976 Loglan materials that I read when I was looking into Loglan back at UF in the 80's or 90's. -- Bob Slaughter, rslau@mindspring.com http://www.mindspring.com/~rslau/ North Georgia Modurail: http://www.mindspring.com/~rslau/ngm/ In which language of the world does the word 'taxi' mean "I cannot drive"? e'osai ko sarji la lojban fo lonu pilno -- http://www.lojban.org/