From adam@pubcrawler.org Fri Jan 09 14:18:03 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 09 Jan 2004 14:18:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from postal.seas.wustl.edu ([128.252.145.2]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Af4x4-0001ly-DF for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 14:17:58 -0800 Received: from clarion.cec.wustl.edu (clarion.cec.wustl.edu [128.252.21.3]) by postal.seas.wustl.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i09MT1n04093; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 16:29:01 -0600 Received: from localhost (adam@localhost) by clarion.cec.wustl.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id i09MGqV1014169; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 16:16:52 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: clarion.cec.wustl.edu: adam owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 16:16:52 -0600 (CST) From: "Adam D. Lopresto" To: lojban-list@lojban.org cc: jcowan@reutershealth.com, Cyril Slobin , lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: [lojban] Re: shorthand for conversations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <2.07b7.1BL5.HR8QG5@slobin.ran.pp.ru> <20040109215630.GG2666@skunk.reutershealth.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Status: No, -4.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Report: -4.6/5.0 ---- Start SpamAssassin results -4.60 points, 5 required; * -0.0 -- Has a valid-looking References header * 0.0 -- Message-Id indicates a non-spam MUA (Pine) * -0.4 -- Has a In-Reply-To header * 0.2 -- FVGT - subject contains odd letter combination with J * -0.4 -- Has a X-Authentication-Warning header * -0.5 -- BODY: Contains what looks like an email attribution * 1.2 -- BODY: Contains "Toner Cartridge" * -5.4 -- BODY: Bayesian classifier says spam probability is 1 to 10% [score: 0.0179] * -0.4 -- BODY: Contains what looks like a quoted email text * 0.0 -- Reply with quoted text * 1.1 -- Contains multiple odd letter combinations ---- End of SpamAssassin results X-archive-position: 6941 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: adam@pubcrawler.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list I assume you meant cu'u instead of cu'e? I'm not sure it's quite the same. I don't think there's a difference between Alice: John's a fool. and Alice said, "John's a fool." but those are different from Alice said that John's a fool. (indirect quote, may not have been her exact words), which is how I would translate: cu'u la alis. la djan. bebna Or am I overanalyzing? On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Jim Carter wrote: > On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 jcowan@reutershealth.com wrote: > > Cyril Slobin scripsit: > > > But in long conversation (imagine play text) the endless repeatition of > > > all this "said" (lojban "cusku") quickly became boring. > > > > One approach is to attach "cu'e la .alis." to bridi. > > This is my favorite approach. > > James F. Carter Voice 310 825 2897 FAX 310 206 6673 > UCLA-Mathnet; 6115 MSA; 405 Hilgard Ave.; Los Angeles, CA, USA 90095-1555 > Email: jimc@math.ucla.edu http://www.math.ucla.edu/~jimc (q.v. for PGP key) > > To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> > Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark > Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. > http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 > http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/GSaulB/TM > ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > -- Adam Lopresto http://cec.wustl.edu/~adam/ If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.