From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Jan 20 17:05:20 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 12768 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2004 01:05:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Jan 2004 01:05:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Jan 2004 01:05:20 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1Aj6o3-0004JX-PC for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:05:19 -0800 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1Aj6o3-0004JC-JA for lojban-out@lojban.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:05:19 -0800 Resent-From: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:05:19 -0800 Resent-Message-ID: <20040121010519.GH14172@digitalkingdom.org> Resent-To: lojban-out@lojban.org Received: from dsl081-049-134.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.134] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1AiK0Q-00021Z-8E; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 12:58:50 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 18 Jan 2004 12:58:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1AiK08-00021M-Kt for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 12:58:32 -0800 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 12:58:32 -0800 Message-ID: <20040118205832.GH13412@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-archive-position: 6989 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.61 (1.212.2.1-2003-12-09-exp) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.61 Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:05:19 -0800 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] [emil@emilgilliam.com: Puzzled Monkeys Reveal Key Language Step] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21470 What I find interesting about this is that the problems they're talking about seem to be similar to the problems feral children have. -Robin ----- Forwarded message from Emil Gilliam ----- Subject: Puzzled Monkeys Reveal Key Language Step From: Emil Gilliam To: sl4@sl4.org 19:00?15?January?04 NewScientist.com news service The key cognitive step that allowed humans to become the only animals using language may have been identified, scientists say. A new study on monkeys found that while they are able to understand basic rules about word patterns, they are not able to follow more complex rules that underpin the crucial next stage of language structure. For example, the monkeys could master simple word structures, analogous to realising that "the" and "a" are always followed by another word. But they were unable to grasp phrase patterns analogous to "if... then..." constructions. ... http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994572 ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Me: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. "Constant neocortex override is the only thing that stops us all from running out and eating all the cookies." -- Eliezer Yudkowsky http://www.lojban.org/ *** .i cimo'o prali .ui