From xod@thestonecutters.net Tue Jan 20 17:05:19 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 34512 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2004 01:05:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Jan 2004 01:05:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Jan 2004 01:05:19 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1Aj6o2-0004Hr-Qk for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:05:18 -0800 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1Aj6o2-0004HN-LC for lojban-out@lojban.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:05:18 -0800 Resent-From: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:05:18 -0800 Resent-Message-ID: <20040121010518.GA14172@digitalkingdom.org> Resent-To: lojban-out@lojban.org Received: from dsl081-049-134.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.134] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1AgpTx-0005By-QO; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:11:09 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:11:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from thestonecutters.net ([63.251.19.112] helo=chert.thestonecutters.net) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1AgpTn-0005Bp-Aa for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:10:59 -0800 Received: from thestonecutters.net (p78-77.acedsl.com [66.114.78.77]) by chert.thestonecutters.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13F22148001 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 13:08:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4005862D.1070209@thestonecutters.net> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 13:10:53 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031013 Thunderbird/0.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20040112153514.64294.qmail@web41904.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20040112153514.64294.qmail@web41904.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 6981 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xod@thestonecutters.net X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.61 (1.212.2.1-2003-12-09-exp) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.61 Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:05:18 -0800 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 From: xod Reply-To: xod@thestonecutters.net Subject: [lojban] Re: On not using du for is X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=110189215 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21463 Jorge Llambías wrote: >mi pu cusku di'e > On the other hand, "ti du lo patfu be mi" is synonymous > with "ti patfu mi", as far as I can tell. > >la xod cusku di'e > >>.ienairu'e .i zo ti steci le smuni .iseni'ibo lo patfu du le patfu >> > >lu lo patfu cu du le patfu li'u mintu smuni lu le patfu cu patfu li'u >i ka'e jetnu gi'e ka'e jitfa > va'i la'e lo patfu cu nibli mintu la'e le patfu fi'o selsku lo steci patfu .i zukte zo ti lo nu pensi lo steci >>.i mi na jimpe fi le terfrica be lu ti patfu mi li'u goiko'a be'o >>zu'igoiko'e .i ko'a zukte simsa .i ko'e dacti simsa (verb-like, >>vs.noun-like). >> > >i ku'i bau la lojban lo dacti valsi lo zukte valsi na vajni frica > .iesai .iseni'ibo pe'i noda terfri .isemu'ibo le selsku be la .and. pu cfipu mi >i zo lo galfi lo selbri lo sumti gi'e jmina no drata smuni i lo drata >gadri cu galfi lo selbri lo sumti gi'e ja'a jmina lo smuni > za'a tcesnada nuncikre >mu'o mi'e xorxes > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes >http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus > > > -- "American imperialism is, by definition, a retreat away from global capitalism, a retreat from the invisible hand of markets in favor of a more dominant role for the visible fist of governments," argued Paul McCulley, a managing director of PIMCO, the world's largest bond investment fund.