From jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Tue Jan 20 17:05:16 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 11052 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2004 01:05:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Jan 2004 01:05:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Jan 2004 01:05:16 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1Aj6nz-0004BA-D3 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:05:15 -0800 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1Aj6nz-0004AX-4c for lojban-out@lojban.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:05:15 -0800 Resent-From: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:05:15 -0800 Resent-Message-ID: <20040121010515.GY14172@digitalkingdom.org> Resent-To: lojban-out@lojban.org Received: from dsl081-049-134.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.134] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Af6Ys-0002mb-E4; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 16:01:06 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 09 Jan 2004 16:01:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from web41904.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.155]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Af6Yj-0002mH-Cy for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 16:00:57 -0800 Message-ID: <20040110000026.33094.qmail@web41904.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.69.6.36] by web41904.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 16:00:26 PST Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 16:00:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 6953 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.61 (1.212.2.1-2003-12-09-exp) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.61 Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:05:15 -0800 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 From: Jorge "Llambías" Reply-To: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Subject: [lojban] Re: shorthand for conversations X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=142311107 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21445 --- "Adam D. Lopresto" wrote: > but those are different from > > Alice said that John's a fool. > > (indirect quote, may not have been her exact words), which is how I would > translate: > > cu'u la alis. la djan. bebna It is even stronger. If I say that, I am not just reporting what Alice said, I am claiming that John is a fool and that Alice is a sayer in that relationship that she has to John. But that John bebnas would be part of my claim, unlike the case of the indirect quote. mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus