From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Jan 20 17:05:19 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 89444 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2004 01:05:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Jan 2004 01:05:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Jan 2004 01:05:17 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1Aj6o0-0004Cf-6L for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:05:16 -0800 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1Aj6nz-0004C8-SG for lojban-out@lojban.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:05:15 -0800 Resent-From: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:05:15 -0800 Resent-Message-ID: <20040121010515.GD14172@digitalkingdom.org> Resent-To: lojban-out@lojban.org Received: from dsl081-049-134.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.134] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Af7Lf-0003pG-Ih; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 16:51:31 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 09 Jan 2004 16:51:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1Af7LY-0003p4-24 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 16:51:24 -0800 Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 16:51:24 -0800 Message-ID: <20040110005124.GM18943@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20040110001320.GH18943@digitalkingdom.org> <20040110003612.62440.qmail@web41906.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040110003612.62440.qmail@web41906.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-archive-position: 6958 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.61 (1.212.2.1-2003-12-09-exp) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.61 Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:05:15 -0800 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: shorthand for conversations X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21461 On Fri, Jan 09, 2004 at 04:36:12PM -0800, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > --- Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > But if you saw: > > > > la .alis. cusku lu pamoi jufra li'u > > la .bab. cusku lu remoi jufra li'u > > la .alis. zo'u cimoi jufra > > > > you would understand what had just happened, right? > > I would probably understand, but that doesn't make it right, > or desirable, or whatever. I would understand this too: > > alis: coi bab > bab: coi alis If you take zo'u as :, those are basically identical. > In the case of a play, something like that is what should be used > probably, because "alis:" and "bab:" are not meant to be > pronounced by anyone, so they need not be a part of the parsable > text. True. > > If it's really an issue of confusion, the author just has to > > say: > > > > mi pilno lu ko'a zo'u jufra li'u le sinxa be lu ko'a cusku > > lu jufra li'u li'u > > > > at the top somewhere. > > And give up the use of zo'u with its normal meaning in the whole > text? Seems like too high a price to pay. Depends on the text. > Also, it means that if you want to quote some short part of the > text that doesn't include the introduction you have to explain > that the use of zo'u is nonstandard. True. -Robin -- Me: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. "Constant neocortex override is the only thing that stops us all from running out and eating all the cookies." -- Eliezer Yudkowsky http://www.lojban.org/ *** .i cimo'o prali .ui