From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Feb 11 09:54:07 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 11283 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2004 17:54:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Feb 2004 17:54:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Feb 2004 17:54:06 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1AqyYd-00072i-1Q for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 09:53:55 -0800 Received: from dsl081-049-134.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.134] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1AqyXh-00071l-NG; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 09:52:57 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 11 Feb 2004 09:52:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1AqyXZ-00071a-0Q for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 09:52:49 -0800 Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 09:52:49 -0800 Message-ID: <20040211175249.GP8463@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20040211124207.43220.qmail@web41901.mail.yahoo.com> <20040211125903.58441.qmail@web41902.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040211125903.58441.qmail@web41902.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i X-archive-position: 7090 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: jbofihe or book error? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21565 On Wed, Feb 11, 2004 at 04:59:03AM -0800, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > > --- Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > > --- Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > In > > > http://lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter14.html, > > > ex. 15.9 does not parse with jbofihe. > > > > The correct sentence corresponding to the English is: > > > > nu'i ge la djan. bau la lojban. [nu'u] > > gi la frank. bai la djordj. [nu'u] cusku > > > > Or {joi gi} instead of {ge}, given that the text is about > > non-logical connectives. It is not clear what distinction is > > 15.9 supposed to make with respect to 15.8. > > I think the original intention might have been something like: > > do fa'u mi cusku nu'i fa'u gi fi la djan. bau la lojban. [nu'u] > gi fi la frank. bai la djordj. [nu'u] > > You and I speak, to John in Lojban, and to Frank compelled by > George, respectively. To match the English, wouldn't you want: la djan. fa'u la frank. cusku nu'i fa'u gi bau la lojban. [nu'u] gi bai la djordj. [nu'u] ? -Robin -- Me: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. "Constant neocortex override is the only thing that stops us all from running out and eating all the cookies." -- Eliezer Yudkowsky http://www.lojban.org/ *** .i cimo'o prali .ui