From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Feb 03 12:03:23 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 52785 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2004 20:03:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Feb 2004 20:03:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Feb 2004 20:03:21 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1Ao6l8-0003Mm-69 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 03 Feb 2004 12:02:58 -0800 Received: from dsl081-049-134.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.134] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Ao6kU-0003MA-Sp; Tue, 03 Feb 2004 12:02:18 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 03 Feb 2004 12:02:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1Ao6kM-0003Lt-U4 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 03 Feb 2004 12:02:10 -0800 Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 12:02:10 -0800 Message-ID: <20040203200210.GZ1943@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <2.07b7.TZX1.HSF1EW@slobin.ran.pp.ru> <20040202205514.GZ1943@digitalkingdom.org> <2.07b7.FIO9.HSIXFC@slobin.ran.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2.07b7.FIO9.HSIXFC@slobin.ran.pp.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i X-archive-position: 7037 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: How to catch a hare? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21515 On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 10:42:48PM +0300, Cyril Slobin wrote: > On 2-Feb-2004 12:55 Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > >> How to catch a hare? ta'i ma kavbu lo ractu > >> Hide youself in the bushes i ko mipri ko vi lo demspa > >> and produce the sound of a carrot, i ko cmoni gau lo'e najystagi > > > .u'i mutce zdile lisri .ije mi nelci le do lojbo > > Thank you! > > > .i ku'i mi to tolvajni toi stidi zo ne'i .enai zo vi > > Of cource {ne'i} is more precise, but who remember it? I don't. > While {vi} is "basic lojban", everyone knows it. I see ne'i as being just as basic as vi, and certainly much more accurate (although ti'a is probably even better), but I probably don't share your definition of the word 'basic' in this case. > > gi'e stidi zo bacru .enai zo cmoni > > As far as I understand, {bacru} has broader meaning than {cmoni}. > And, for my taste, a carrot just {cmoni}, like an animal. Yes, it would appear I misunderstood cmoni. Nevermind. > > .i xu zo gau cu srera .isemu'inaibo ko ciksi > > Yes, this is weakest part of my translation. I myself feel like > there is something wrong with {gau}. But I cannot find any better > solution. Your suggestion? pa'a The uses of pa'a are vast, and largely untapped. -Robin -- Me: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. "Constant neocortex override is the only thing that stops us all from running out and eating all the cookies." -- Eliezer Yudkowsky http://www.lojban.org/ *** .i cimo'o prali .ui