From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Feb 11 10:04:57 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 29057 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2004 18:04:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Feb 2004 18:04:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Feb 2004 18:04:57 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1Aqya7-00074z-OT for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 09:55:27 -0800 Received: from dsl081-049-134.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.134] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1AqyZJ-00073S-OH; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 09:54:37 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 11 Feb 2004 09:54:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1AqyZA-00073F-Ee for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 09:54:28 -0800 Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 09:54:28 -0800 Message-ID: <20040211175428.GQ8463@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20040211022931.GJ8463@digitalkingdom.org> <20040211124710.54041.qmail@web41902.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040211124710.54041.qmail@web41902.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i X-archive-position: 7091 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Another book wierdness. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21567 On Wed, Feb 11, 2004 at 04:47:10AM -0800, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > > --- Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > 15.7) mi ce'e bau la lojban. pe'e joi do ce'e bau la gliban. > > nu'u casnu > > ( I [plus] in-language Lojban massed-with you [plus] > > in-language English) discuss. > > > > My version of the official parser doesn't handle pe'e or ce'e, > > however it seems Amazingly Unlikely that the sentence is correct > > in any sense, as it uses nu'u to terminate ce'e/pe'e, which the > > grammar does not allow that I can see. > > The sentence is correct without nu'u. Since you seem to understand this stuff, xorxes (or anyone else who wants to jump in), what I really need is a sentence where dropping nu'u causes a failure to parse. Not just an unintended meaning, but actual non-parseability. -Robin -- Me: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. "Constant neocortex override is the only thing that stops us all from running out and eating all the cookies." -- Eliezer Yudkowsky http://www.lojban.org/ *** .i cimo'o prali .ui