From jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Wed Mar 24 10:41:25 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 96766 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2004 18:41:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Mar 2004 18:41:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Mar 2004 18:41:24 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1B6DJb-0000ux-WD for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 10:41:23 -0800 Received: from dsl081-049-134.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.134] helo=chain.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B6DId-0000u9-L4; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 10:40:23 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 24 Mar 2004 10:40:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from web41901.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.152]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B6DIV-0000s7-AK for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 10:40:15 -0800 Message-ID: <20040324183944.49069.qmail@web41901.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.49.74.2] by web41901.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 10:39:44 PST Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 10:39:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20040324173928.GA881@mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 7307 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 From: Jorge "Llambías" Reply-To: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Subject: [lojban] Re: grammar oddity challenge X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=142311107 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 21781 --- Rob Speer wrote: > On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 02:00:04PM -0800, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > > > > Find a brivla which can appear ONLY at the beginning of a text. > > Does "bu zei broda" work? {bu zei broda} can be used anywhere, because zei acts before bu, but you were close. The answer I had in mind was any brivla of the form {zei zei }. For example: zei zei lujvo fa lo selbri be di'u The selbri of this sentence is a zei-lujvo. But if we try to put something in front of the brivla {zei zei lujvo}, we get: lo selbri be di'u zei zei lujvo which tries to attach the brivla {di'u zei zei} with be, or: lo selbri be di'u cu zei zei lujvo The selbri of this sentence type of cu-zei type of lujvo. which is just a sumti. There is a way to cheat, however: lo selbri be di'u cu zo zei zei lujvo The selbri of this sentence is a "zei"-lujvo which works because {zo} acts before {zei}. mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html